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+Mely    82

Add a hero and his counters in comments and I'll edit the main post. Counter can be anything from hero spell mechanic item or play style.

I'll start with some heroes.

Omni - silencer. (globalsilence).diffusal(purge repel)
Crystal maiden - bkb,disruptor (Glimpse is a channelbreaker,BKB shuts off all of cm spells)
Ursa - veno (SLOW is ursa counter xD)
Slark,ember,storm - disruptor(the silence removes their escapes and prevents slark from ulting and ember from sleighting).Blink legion duel,orchid(Canbemantad) Disruptor cant be mantad.
Void - tiny(his passive means void keeps getting stunned in his chrono),STORM
Witch doctor - tree,Disruptor (Tree ult breaks channel and can be used to just charge in and ult(has decentrange), Disruptor breaks channel).
Pudge - puck,Disruptor,qop, (puck can phase shift during or after or before hook,qop can blink after hook if pudge is slow,disruptor can break pudge ult.)Lifestealer because Lifestealers passive does damage based on health
Riki - zeus slardar bh (Invis detection.) OD (BECUZ THIS META)
Sniper - ursa slardar,blink dagger (ursa and slardar can blink burst sniper. blink can blink burst sniper xD)
Wk - am,pl,diffusal (Manadrain from these peeps means wk wont have ult).
Huskar - witch doctor , shadow shaman,pl,ck,aa (wd and shaman have physical ults which negate huskar passive,huskar is a single target attacker so he cant fight illusion heroes)
Pl,ck - Medusa,earthshaker,spirit breaker,sanding, disruptot, Mirana,leshrac, (Medusa ult insta kills illusions,rest are all AOE spell casters that can kill illusions)
Jug - Mirana, aa,tusk,doom,lich,lotus,invis,ghostscepter (noob jugs ult can be blocked by invis,AA can block healing ward,doom,tusk and lich ult can go through bladefury(only ministun for lich),lotus reflects and completely nullifies dmg from jug ult,ghostscepter nullifies jug ult and right clicks,)
Alchi - aa (blocks his ult heal)
DAZZLE - axe,lich,slardar (axe ult can go throgh grave,lich and slardar armorspells can work against dazzle's ult).
PA - lina,qop,lion,mkb (Lina has magic/puredmg/ burst and lion has magic burst as well. pa is squish so ez kill. MKB nullifies blur.
Od-Nyx because his mana burn does damage based on intelligence.
AM - silence,Disruptor,Skywrath,Storm,LCduel,.
Storm - Lion-manadrain.


Intel heroes - Nyx (thr more int the enemy has the more effective Nyx mana drain is)
Spellcssrees - disruptor.
Jungler - sentries to block their camps.
Doom - counters all except - rubick and lotus orb xD
WIND - MKB/Slow/Silence for Windrun. Stay awawy from trees and each other to dodge shackleshot.
Clinkz - Silence,Detection,Armor(FORHEMAKESDESOLOL),Halberd/Disarm.

SPECIAL MENITON FOR TINKER IDKY

Tinker - Spirit Breaker ,Nyx, Blademail, bkb, 

(SB Can CC tinker for a very long duration, Tinker can't dodge charge

-Invis Nyx can catch Tinker when he teleports or farms, Mana burn also very painful due to Tinkers high mana pool, Spiked Carapace also good -> Can stun Tinker when he uses his spells, and Impale is also a good CC spell

-Blademail Reflects Tinkers damage. Deadly for Tinker due to his low HP

-Tinker can't do any damage against BKB)

To summ it up: A stunned Tinker is a dead Tinker)

 



Ok I'm done maybe more tomorrow.

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Clones231    71

Nice topic

could you add a little detail on why they counter the heroes for the noobs

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+TheGamer777    172

Od-Nyx because his mana burn does damage based on intelligence

Storm-Legion because when storm is dueled he cant run away

Pudge-Lifestealer because Lifestealers passive does damage based on health and Pudge has a lot of health

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PotatoLover    1

AM-Legion I like playing legion against anti because if you catch him in duel you rape him

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+Mely    82

Od-Nyx because his mana burn does damage based on intelligence

Storm-Legion because when storm is dueled he cant run away

Pudge-Lifestealer because Lifestealers passive does damage based on health and Pudge has a lot of health

Wow i did not know about lifestealer KEWL.

Never seen good storm catched in duel :p

havent seen ember caught in duel either xD

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+TheGamer777    172

Yeah, the lifestealer works against anything with a large amount of hp, I said pudge specifically because of the fact that pudges passive makes him really tanky, but it works on anyone with a lot of hp

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+Blackbird    14

Can we actually get our facts right before splurting out heros xD Nyx counters intel heros. Omni has a counter, its crowdcontrol, silencer, diffusal etc. Most heros and items have counters apart from your bashes aka your mkb / skullbasher or passive bashes.

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PotatoLover    1

Ursa counters pudge heavily. Ursa just rapes pudge easily, Wait till ursa gets blink or shadow and watch yourself getting raped every 2 mins xD

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PotatoLover    1

Yes they are, Lifestealer/Ursa one of the best counters for pudge. Also Qop can just blink away and OD can rape you AND leave you with no mana 

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+Mely    82

Qop against a pudge at mid has at advantage because qop has better rune control and if she can kill pudge at mid cuz of pure damage but pudge can't kill her cause she can blink.

If someone explains how ursa and od counter pudge than I can add that to the list.

And am is ok again pudge sure he won't die to pudge but pudge has purr damage which is always good against am because it will ignore am's magic resistance

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Fox    2

Doombringer counters all

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benjammin    7

I feel like OD has always been a decent pudge counter if played correctly, especially in the current meta. 

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Xpiritz    1

How to counter Slark both in lane and in the fights for players with little understating of the hero. 

 

In the early game as a HC slark is a terrible laner before hitting level 6,  If you are a offlaner or running a dual lane and slark is alone or he has a terrible dual lane partner, just harass harass harass especially if you are ranged, this will either make him go poor man's shield, wand and/or just hug the tower and hope you will leave him alone after he hits 6.

 

When ganking try to always corner slark in his backside, most players will panic leap and end up dying because an enemy hero "blocked" or got "clipped: by the leap. This is your main objective to take down slark and most notably the easier one, after or before this you have to bait him to use Q to purge  a stun, disable or slow, another thing most slark players don't do is use his ult to escape ganks when they are starting, they use it as a last resort which ultimately end up dying either by the nukes that get to him and the extreme amount of disables.

 

Most notable hero to counter slark is lion.

 

A good lion in the early stage keeps up the distance between him and slark, harrasses his out of the lane with his good attack speed and damage and sucks his mana or harasses him with his stun with low cooldown.

 

To effectively shut down slark before the mid game, at least 3 kills on him must be needed, because when he gets his 6 he will be flash farming the jungle for at least 3-4 mins before getting a late blink or shadowblade.

 

Another facepalm plays Slark players make are that for instance there is a free lane, he cuts the lane (meaning he gets to the enemy creep wave before the friendly creep waves come) and both tanks the creep wave and uses his purge to kill the creep wave, after this creep wave dies he will be likely having 2/3 of his health so as lion you can nuke him down with the stun and ult before he can even comprehend what happened. 

 

Other notable counter's for slark are heroes that either have AOE disables and nukes. Heroes like Invo, Lina, Lion, Earth shaker, Earth Spirit, Silence (highly situational) Sky wrath mage.

 

Most slark pickers don't go blink and opt for Shadow blade. Best counter? gem? slardar?bounty hunter? nope, Necro 3 that pesky true sight creep will not only scout him but will also burn his mana (with the archer Q as well) and make his shadowblade useless. When a slark goes shadow blade it means he is opting to instead of farming his gold, he will earn it by ganking if your stop his ganking it will make his first 2,800 gold and 13 mins of the game useless and unfarmed 

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+Mely    82

How to counter Slark both in lane and in the fights for players with little understating of the hero. 

 

In the early game as a HC slark is a terrible laner before hitting level 6,  If you are a offlaner or running a dual lane and slark is alone or he has a terrible dual lane partner, just harass harass harass especially if you are ranged, this will either make him go poor man's shield, wand and/or just hug the tower and hope you will leave him alone after he hits 6.

 

When ganking try to always corner slark in his backside, most players will panic leap and end up dying because an enemy hero "blocked" or got "clipped: by the leap. This is your main objective to take down slark and most notably the easier one, after or before this you have to bait him to use Q to purge  a stun, disable or slow, another thing most slark players don't do is use his ult to escape ganks when they are starting, they use it as a last resort which ultimately end up dying either by the nukes that get to him and the extreme amount of disables.

 

Most notable hero to counter slark is lion.

 

A good lion in the early stage keeps up the distance between him and slark, harrasses his out of the lane with his good attack speed and damage and sucks his mana or harasses him with his stun with low cooldown.

 

To effectively shut down slark before the mid game, at least 3 kills on him must be needed, because when he gets his 6 he will be flash farming the jungle for at least 3-4 mins before getting a late blink or shadowblade.

 

Another facepalm plays Slark players make are that for instance there is a free lane, he cuts the lane (meaning he gets to the enemy creep wave before the friendly creep waves come) and both tanks the creep wave and uses his purge to kill the creep wave, after this creep wave dies he will be likely having 2/3 of his health so as lion you can nuke him down with the stun and ult before he can even comprehend what happened. 

 

Other notable counter's for slark are heroes that either have AOE disables and nukes. Heroes like Invo, Lina, Lion, Earth shaker, Earth Spirit, Silence (highly situational) Sky wrath mage.

 

Most slark pickers don't go blink and opt for Shadow blade. Best counter? gem? slardar?bounty hunter? nope, Necro 3 that pesky true sight creep will not only scout him but will also burn his mana (with the archer Q as well) and make his shadowblade useless. When a slark goes shadow blade it means he is opting to instead of farming his gold, he will earn it by ganking if your stop his ganking it will make his first 2,800 gold and 13 mins of the game useless and unfarmed 

THIS SHOULD BE A SEPERATE TOPIC FOR GOD's sake xD

Very well done.

Haven't read it though will read it now xD.

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